The City is seeking feedback for the 70th and Cahill small area plan, as a part of the larger 2018 Comprehensive Plan. In 2008, when the last Comprehensive Plan was completed, the area was identified as a place where change, such as significant remodeling, redevelopment or land use and zoning changes, is likely to occur.

Topic: Land Use

What do you see being the best use of land for the 70th and Cahill area in the future? For example, low-, medium- or high-density residential; business and light industrial; more retail, etc.?

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Philip Miller at January 08, 2018 at 4:11pm CST

Most of the retail and light industrial buildings in the neighborhood are tired and ugly. I would support newer, fresher and more appealing versions of much the same sort of infrastructure. It is nice to have a few neighborhood restaurants, shops and services as well as some medium density housing. I think there would be more business if things were more appealing.

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Robert Have at January 08, 2018 at 4:33pm CST

I think the Cahill area is a hidden gem waiting to be improved. I would like to see a dramatic improvement in the area. Many of the buildings are tired. I’d love to see a combination of walkable shops and restaurants and owner occupied housing. I want to stay in Edina but do not want to rent! With what is being built in the Southdale area, I think we’ve done our part for the rental market. We need housing options in the $300–$500k range allowing single level living in units with 1500–2500 square feet.

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Kaylin Eidsness admin at January 08, 2018 at 5:00pm CST

[From Robin J.] This is an opportunity to finally provide affordable condominium style (like Grandview - 1,500 sq ft to 2,500 sq ft units) in the $500,000 to $700,000 price range. As far as hight restrictions, as there really aren't any units effected, I'd love to see something like 7 to 15 stories. This would help move empty nesters out of homes and open them up for young families, help keep our schools filled and our elderly population safe and in Edina. We do a great job for the age 49 and under residence (apts & homes), and the over age 75 residence (Assisted Living & Nursing Home Care) but not so well for the age 50 to 75 residence. This is an opportunity we should not pass up.

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David Frenkel at January 08, 2018 at 5:45pm CST

NO Tax Increment Financing (TIF) for any new development.

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Greg Konezny at January 08, 2018 at 6:11pm CST

I think the area should be completely redeveloped with a mix of retail/restaurants and residential. Not a fan of seeing high rise buildings in that area given lack of sufficient transportation throughput.

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Sandra x at January 08, 2018 at 6:53pm CST

I would like this area to remain low desensity retail to serve the surrounding residential homes and condos. There are plenty of condos on Cahill already. The area needs restaurants and updated small retail and sidewalks where people can walk safely between the shops.

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Erik Rutzen at January 08, 2018 at 7:15pm CST

Honestly it would be a shame if that area became a massive high rise building area. I’m all for more restaurants and small businesses there, but it should keep the small, residential feel to it.

Also, every Edina kid nowadays has fond memories of biking to the Edina market with a big group of friends, getting some Arizonas, and chilling outside. If you guys try and tear down the Edina market Edina will have a great loss. Such a classic store

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Lynn Hechanova at January 08, 2018 at 7:27pm CST

Mixed use. Small Restaurants, barber & hair salons, bakery, coffee shops, flowers, small business development. Condos above with lower level retail.

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John Nash at January 08, 2018 at 9:00pm CST

Restaurants and small businesses are what should be there. There are two new and excellent restaurants there - Mexican and Latin - and others that have been there a while. The city should do everything possible to sustain and promote this little center as a great place to eat and support the small, independent businesses that are growing there. New construction could price the existing businesses out of business and they'd be replaced with more of the boring,, corporate chain stuff the Cities already have too much of.

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Judith Felker at January 08, 2018 at 9:42pm CST

I agree with Robin J as quoted by Kaylin. This is an opportunity to build affordable condos, especially for "empty nesters". Moving to a condo within Edina makes sense for people like us, and our homes would then be available for new families. Walkability is important. Safe and relatively short walks to health clinics, pharmacies, small businesses, restaurants, etc., as suggested by John Nash and Lynn Hechanova would help build community. The small businesses could be ringed around a large park/lake (or fountain) area. Definitely underground parking for the condos, maybe parking ramps for the businesses, but plan less for cars and more for walking, biking, buses or even light rail for the whole area and beyond. That's our future; make it green!

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Maura Schnorbach at January 09, 2018 at 6:10am CST

I think the area should be completely renovated to make it beautiful and accessible to walkers, bikers and integrate it into the surrounding community. It is also essential to create parking. I would like to see a mix of shops including coffee, bakery, hair salon and unique restaurants. I would favor low density building with landscaping to connect it to the neighborhood and park. Making strategic investments in our community will keep it vibrant and flourishing. It may also be worth exploring shared work spaces for small, independent businesses or some type of collaborative community space.

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Steve Gilfix at January 09, 2018 at 12:36pm CST

Where are the property owners in this process? Are they seeking zoning or other changes that require city approval? Soliciting long term thoughts on the area is fine but the community should be made aware if such potential changes are imminent or purely hypothetical. This is not city parkland, these are privately owned properties.

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Laura Kondrick at January 09, 2018 at 1:15pm CST

i would like to see more condos and town houses in this area as alternatives to stand alone houses and apartments. Why are we not building condos in Edina? There is a real market for them now. I heard that state law assigns 11 years of liability to builders of condos (as opposed to apartments). I would like to see changes to the small business area to include cohesive and appealing store fronts without displacing and disrupting current businesses.

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Frank Lerman at January 09, 2018 at 5:16pm CST

I support Steve Gilfix's comment, but I would go beyond that. The comments I see all talk about things people would like to see - restaurants, bakeries, condos, etc. Nowhere do I see anybody saying that he/she would love to open a restaurant or bakery to serve the people of Edina and make some money, if only he/she could find a vacant storefront or some vacant land that is suitable. Instead of focusing our planning efforts on what we would like to see, why not focus our planning efforts on how we might make it easier for entrepreneurs who want to build housing or open businesses, or those who have existing businesses. Also, no TIF financing, which in my opinion is way overused.

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Rachel Jerstad at January 09, 2018 at 8:02pm CST

I own a town home on Village Drive, just off 70th and Cahill. We love the restaurants and businesses and they are just a quick walk. We also love Lewis park. It is used all summer and winter long. There are quite a number of condo's in the area and we do not need any more. I would also HATE to see any high rise buildings. The neighborhood feeling of the area is a huge part of its charm. As others have said it is critical to support the new local restaurants. We have eaten at all of them and the stories that the owners tell are incredible as is the food. My 14 year old son and his friends ride their bikes and skate boards to the Edina Market frequently. I fully support helping the current businesses improve their building appearance but let's please take into consideration those of us who own our homes in the area and the local businesses.

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Jane Soltau at January 09, 2018 at 10:23pm CST

I support low density in the Cahill area. We are building too many apartments in Edina. I would like to see retail and restaurants.

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Paul Nelson admin at January 10, 2018 at 9:37am CST

I believe the land it prime real estate and is begging for redevelopment. I love the restaurants, grocery and other retail that are located in the core of this neighborhood, it's just that the area lacks density to support those endeavors. There are posts daily that encourage support of these businesses and the apparent lack to traffic leads me to believe this is an area that would improve from higher density. I would like to see medium to high density (3-4 stories) brought to the core of this development with substantial apartment or condo development. The land is adjacent to our new bike trail and close to the Lewis park walking trails. It also begs for a live/work scenario with all the office/industrial located on the southern doorstep of this small area. Being sensitive to the local businesses that currently occupy the space by building in installments and allowing retail, restaurant and coffee shops to develop (or move) into the first floor spaces. Ample space for some more green space - both public (outward facing) and private (courtyard spaces), with underground parking throughout the block (residents/workers) to minimize the surface parking needs. Housing, while seemingly in over supply with all the development is being absorbed much quicker that it is being made available. The MSP region has the highest apartment occupancy rate in the country as of the 4th quarter of 2017 - 97%. This coupled with the need for quality condos for our home owner community that is looking to move from their single family homes - we need to find a way for these folks to stay in our community.

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Mark Jones at January 10, 2018 at 9:59am CST

I agree with most comments that the area is old and tired. Remodeling the existing buildings is not a good idea, it would only be a bandaid. I do not believe that higher density would benifit the area either. Current use can be supported and if redeveloped with a more functional design it would bring in new retail and substantially increase the use but not impact the existing residential surroundings.

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Meghan Figueroa at January 10, 2018 at 8:47pm CST

CAHILL IS A DUMP. Gramercy Tavern could open in there and I still wouldn't go there to eat because the buildings are just barely a notch above dining in a church basement. Melin needs to be seriously strong-armed into giving a sh*t, and the city needs to help realize the incredible potential of that location. I have a young family and would love a local eatery (Pizzeria Lola? Birchwood?) or grocer (Lakewinds Coop, Surdyks?) or wine bar (Lucias?). Low-density housing, like 50th and France feels right - condos above retail, but nothing bigger like what's on Excelsior Blvd. It needs WAY more green to help cover that eye sore of an electrical plant and those awful meters and dumpsters I see every time I drive Cahill. It should feel more a part of the neighborhood than the industrial park: which is how it was originally conceived when this area was founded.

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Joel Stegner, Community volunteer at January 10, 2018 at 11:43pm CST

I once lived in the neighborhood and still regularly use the car repair shop, the barber shop and TJ's of Edina. What more than anything I want to see is these three business's reman. Shutting convenient high quality businesses is not my idea of the best use of the land - which can amount to making everything modern, congested and overpriced. While eventually the barbers may close, they could easily fit into any small space. Closing TJ's and the service station would be extremely unwise, Neighbood retail hubs reduces congestion at 50h and France and Southdale. Luxury residence and high end retail are consuming too much of the quiet lifestyles that a well planned Edina should afford,

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Susan Lee admin at January 11, 2018 at 2:19pm CST

The 70th-Cahill Small Area Plan is much larger than just the plaza. There is a map showing the boundaries of the study area here on page 11: https://www.edinamn.gov/DocumentCenter/View/4066 It covers the apartment buildings north of 70th, east all the way to the railroad tracks and south to the Film Tec warehouse north property line. It would be great to hear all ideas for the entire area, not just the shopping plaza. The City, of course, doesn't own all these properties, and can not control what property owners do or don't do. However, the Plan becomes useful when re-development proposals are submitted for approval.

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Robert Toomey at January 12, 2018 at 3:08pm CST

Would like to see a combination of single family homes and small site retail/restaurants. This area is certainly NOT conducive to any high residential, high rise units. Edina has developed many areas as of late with high rise units that are becoming nothing more than visual pollution along with traffic congestion centers... Keep Edina neighborhoods neighborly......

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Richard Carlson at January 12, 2018 at 3:33pm CST

I favor combination of a. multifamily upscale residential geared toward southwest Edina residents wishing to stay in the community area but wanting to move out of their single-family homes; b. community retail to especially include a good community food market (not supermarket) and some restaurants; c. Edina senior citizen center and library, similar to the one in Grandview area; c. excellent and safe pedestrian access to the nearby walking paths and Lewis Park; d. sheltered bus stop

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Will Durfee at January 12, 2018 at 5:38pm CST

Mixed-use is the way to go. There is a terrific opportunity for converting this area into something that is inviting. Currently is looking a little tired.

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Martin Rubin at January 13, 2018 at 1:29pm CST

In addition to medium density housing and more retail, I would like a dedicated walk/bike connection with the Nine Mile Creek trail. I would also like to see the open space in the trail loop (South of 70th and East of the laundry) converted to parkland with trees, benches, etc.

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Mary Turner at January 13, 2018 at 1:30pm CST

I would like to see updated and inviting buildings with coffee shop, restaurants, bakeries, etc. with patio seating. Some green space would be nice. Bicycle parking since it is near the bike path. Keep Grandview Auto. It does currently look dated and storefronts do not face the streets.

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Lisa Nelson at January 14, 2018 at 12:34am CST

Mixed small business/retail/housing, four stories, surface parking behind businesses.

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Siobhan White at January 17, 2018 at 9:07am CST

I don't think there should be any more housing built until Edina commits to building another elementary school. We would love some good, non-chain businesses: like a Pizzeria Lola, a nice bakery, perhaps a wine shop. Bike parking would be great. Patio seating would be great, too. I love the Linden Hills area and also 50th/Penn. It is possible to have cute, quirky mom & pop development that doesn't look or feel like a midwestern strip mall.

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Kaylin Eidsness admin at January 17, 2018 at 3:58pm CST

[Comment from Monica McCarthy] It would be so wonderful to have a Fresh Thyme or grocer close to us! This area needs help. It has always been such an eyesore - with all the homes and apartments near - a grocer and retail would be fantastic!

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