Residential Redevelopment
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The Planning Commission and City Staff are looking for resident input to help ensure a balance among homeowners planning to move, existing neighbors impacted by new construction and new homeowners moving into our community. Here is your chance to provide feedback and propose solutions to redevelopment issues currently impacting the City.

Edina continues to be a disirable community. As a result, it has expereinced a large increase in the removal of existing homes and construction of new homes in established neighborhoods. This trend has sparked concern among residents. The Planning Commission established a subcommittee to identify residential zoning issues and suggest possible changes to our current zoning codes and policies.

Please keep all comments constructive and civil.

Construction Process
Any construction project will affect neighbors in some manner, such as increased traffic and construction noise. How has the actual construction of a new home impacted you or your neighborhood? What did a builder do to mitigate your concerns? Do you have suggestions that will make the process go more smoothly for all parties? (Note: The City of Edina recently enacted a new Construction Management Plan outlining performance requirements such as work hours, parking and site maintenance.)

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david frenkel (edit answer)
Who enforces this new construction management plan. The property next to me at 4511 Golf Terrace has been a junk yard full of construction debris for weeks. The silt barrier for the property is broken from vehicles driving on it and it is partially in the street. Regulations are not worth bothering with if there is not enough staff for enforcement. I had to complain after Golf Terrace was torn up for utility week and was not repaved for weeks. Is there any teeth to the construction management plan. There is not direct mention of blocking streets which is happening repeatedly on this and other construction sties. No mention of blocking the passage of school buses. There needs to be strict enforcement otherwise throw the plan away.

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Andrew Brown (edit answer)
I live on 55th and Park Place in Minnehaha Woods, I currently have four complete teardown projects within one block of my house. I lost an entire summer to street reconstruction, I get letters once a month from developers and real estate agents, saying that a well deserving family would like to buy and tear down my own house and then I get to spend two weeks of every year stuck in traffic on Hwy 100 because a lot of nimby's didnt like the Dan Patch corridor. When are the long time families of this city going to actually get to enjoy their once peaceful neighborhoods and what used to be good city services in Edina. And as far as the new neighbors who put these new huge cheap looking houses in Edina, I don't talk to them anyway they ruined any neighborhood feel, long ago

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Janey Westin (edit answer)
I have printed off the Construction Management Plan. Something that is not known to most homeowners in Edina is that the burden of monitoring whether a teardown builder is following the 'rules' of the Management Plan is up to the neighbors. Not all builders are bad apples, but our neighborhood's experience in the Pamela Park neighborhood has been with a really rotten apple (who claims to have been nominated as Builder of the Year, no less!) How were we negatively impacted? His first house in our neighborhood: When the original house was removed, an 8' deep basement with foundation walls still intact was left dangerously unfenced for over a week, over Halloween (look out, trick-or-treaters!) A call to the City after 5 days of this condition resulted in a sloppy fence 4 days later. The builder was allowed by the planning department to place the house more than 8' too close to the street. The builder did nothing but ignore complaints, sued the city to continue building when he got a stop work order, and blamed the surveyor for putting it there; a bogus claim. The house now sits imposing completely on the neighbors next door, whose front yard is overlooked by the new house from front to back. His workers consistently started work before 7:00 (someone even showed up at 4:30 am once), and another crew was working at 10:30 pm Saturday night. Calls to the police were not helpful. It took extra calls to the city to get this builder to properly repair the poorly patched swath where new sewer and water connections were done. Unfortunately, this builder basically thumbed his nose at neighbors and city authority. With the second house on our block which he tore down in a lead and asbestos filled cloud of dust, he has behaved somewhat better, but the dumpster and porta-potty has been sitting too close to the street all through construction. He now has a third house soon to be torn down. What next? With another house he built that backs up to Pamela Park, he took the liberty of running equipment across park property and even clearing out trees on park property to get a better view for the future home owners. I don't know if contacting the Parks Dept. had any affect. Many people don't feel comfortable with making a call to the Planning and Inspections Department, or the police when they see blatant violations of this sort. Calls to this builder went nowhere. Perhaps the city needs an officer in the police department, working with planning to monitor runaway builders of this sort. We have an officer specifically dealing with dog issues. Why not have the same for rogue builders? It is wrong for neighbors to have to do this unpleasant job, when they simply want to have a peaceful neighborhood and go about their daily lives.

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Mark Daum (edit answer)
This same builder has purchased two properties on my street for tear downs. Perhaps we need a new city attorney who can write contracts that builders must legally commit to for approval of building permits that limits a builder's access to suing the city for violations they, the builder commit. If terms of violations are in a written contract, I don't understand how the city couldn't win such lawsuits. Additionally, any violation by the builder should be subject to being banned from operating within the City of Edina for a minimum of 3-5 years.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
I know we all are all busy and it is hard to find extra time but would anybody be interested in meeting to discuss all of our issues regarding these teardowns? Janey, I have the same and more issues with the developer next to me including digging below the previous grade in the back yard which may impact some mature trees I have on the property line. State law allows for triple damages for killing a tree on an adjoining property but I don't want to loose the trees and I certainly don't want to hire a lawyer to sue. The city staff seemed to be overwhelmed and all this extra money the city is getting for building fees should go to hiring more staff. If you are interested contact me at frenkel@att.net .

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david frenkel (edit answer)
As I write this there is a construction related truck illegally parked next to a stop sign on Golf Terrace. This truck may prevent my son's school bus from taking a left turn onto Golf Terrace from St Johns Ave. I have said this many times before but the City of Edina needs to understand that safety is the most important job of government. Developers do not have the right to make safety in the street or on the job site a secondary concern. Buses and children should have over riding priority in the streets of Edina. It is well known that Edina School buses have had to take alternative routes because of construction related road closures which are usually unnecessary. I have seen school buses go backwards down St Johns because roads were blocked. The city is evidently waiting until some incident before they take safety seriously.

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Mark Daum (edit answer)
Thank you to the Planning Committee for meeting with residents today (Saturday, January 26th) to discuss issues and potential solutions for residential construction. The format was very friendly and helpful for sharing ideas. One of the issues that seemed to grow as I spoke with others at this meeting was enforcement of Edina's building codes, and particularly with developers who are repeat offenders. One developer (JMS) came up repeatedly in the discussion. If the building codes are to have any validity, they must have consequences that are enforced. If not, there is no reason to comply. If there are indeed contractual agreements between the City and the developer at the point of requesting a building permit, then the city should have the ability to ban the developer from working within the city limits if they are a habitual offender. The City of Edina should ban such developers from working for a period of time between 1-5 years. If the punishment is only a series of fines, history shows the violations will continue. Stricter enforcement would lead to more opportunity for good developers who follow the rules, while relieving the city of bad developers who do not.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
I would add contractors are also violating OSHA safety regulations. Watch the difference in safey compliance between a utiltity and its contractors compared to construction contractors. Utilities understand and live safey first. The city of Edina should become known as a city that demands safe work environments not just for workers but for its citizens.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
It snowed overnight and I had to call the Edina Police to get a construction related vehicle (HVAC) removed from St Johns Ave which had not been plowed. Why is there this cat and mouse game with construction contractors. Is it something new in MN that streets get plowed after a snow fall? Why don't contractors understand Edina ordinances?

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david frenkel (edit answer)
This afternoon St Johns Ave was used as a construction parking lot for 2 empty 30ft trailers that were picked up by the same dump truck 20 minutes apart. The construction site was no where in site. What happens in the summer when children are running and biking the neighborhood all day and construction companies do as they please regardless of what the neighbors think? Is having a safe job site and a safe neighborhood part of the construction managment plan?

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
David - any interest in forming an action committee to finally put an end to these violations? Based on your posts, it sounds as though contractors are blatantly violating city codes and putting our children in danger all in the name of money! We must put a stop this and you seem very committed.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
It is interesting that slowly other people are stating their similar concerns after I started posting mine, I guess safety in numbers. Roger, I have been down this road before when I lived in Minneapolis and I was the president of the local neighborhood assoc (ECCO). I would like to get more involved but I have young active children so it is very difficult to find free time. What did you have in mind with action committee? I have already had heated discussions with construction workers and I don't want any of these ongoing violations to happen once the children are able to play outside in the streets. I may have to get a construction permit for my house so I can block the streets for my children to play safely.

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
David - thank you for your quick response below at 2:42 pm. I certaintly respect your time constraints, but this city needs you! I'm willing support your efforts and will do all the heavy lifting if you just help in guiding the effort. It seems you have valuable knowledge in city related matters, whereas I don't. P.S. have you considered speaking with the owners of the home being constructed behind you? Possibly if they were aware of their builders activities, they could help smooth matters.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
Roger, I appreciate your support but my time is pretty limited. It is frustrating dealing with bureaucrats and as you can see from this blog some people can get upset by it all. I have no idea who will be the eventual owners of the house next to me and I don't have the time to track them down. When I built a house in Plymouth I made periodic appearances and met the neighbors. I have a great photo of the house under construction with my children standing in the framed entrance. I don't wish it on anybody but even with finished new construction there are usually problems. Contrary to what some people have said my expectations of anybody in Edina is that they obey existing laws, nothing too demanding. Why can't Edina be not just known for having an aggressive speeding ticket Police dept but maybe a city where business is promoted but violators of trust can not do business in the city. The US Dept of Justice has banned BP from bidding on any new oil leases because of poor business practices, why can't Edina do the same thing?

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
I would have to agree, Edina should follow the lead of the US Dept of Justice and crack down. Holding businesses accountable – whether they contaminate the Gulf of Mexico or violate city building codes – is a standard we should expect from our federal and local governments.

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J Bergstedt (edit answer)
Thank you to the City of Edina for setting up this forum to easily provide feedback and exchange ideas with our neighbors. I am also from the Morningside neighborhood and have loved living here for 17 years. Many homes in our area are older and have been nicely upgraded over that time, and I have no problem with improvements to properties. We've done a few projects ourselves over the years. However, this seemingly new trend in completely tearing down houses to replace them with ones that are 2-3 times larger in getting out of hand. In the past there has been a teardown, or near teardown every couple of years in our end of the neighborhood. In the past 1.5 years we have had 6, less than 1000 feet from our home. These projects often take nearly 1 year to complete. The streets in our area are clogged or even blocked by construction related vehicles nearly every day of the week. I'm glad my children are older, because I would not have let small children play along our previously very quiet street for the past 2 summers. We have also had to keep our windows closed for the past 2 summers to keep out the noise and dust. The high number of teardowns in our area, and the ever-increasing size of the homes that replace them, overshadowing the original homes and their yards in out of control. Finally, I am also concerned that the decreasing amount of affordable housing in Edina, will affect the future of our community.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
I do have young children and I do worry about their safety especially once it gets warmer and they are out walking and biking in the neighborhood. The city of Edina needs to take a zero tolerance approach and start writing tickets for street violations like blocking streets and driveways, parking to close to intersections, parking where roads have not been plowed, parking next to fire hydrants, not repaving streets in a timely fashion, and on and on. It is irritating to come home and worry if the street is blocked or there is construction debris in the road or in my yard. It goes on and on.

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Yes if property values keep going up because new people are investing in Edina, that would be a disaster. We must stop this. Perhaps a tall fence.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
Rising property values are great if you are selling a property but not great if you are retired and on a fixed income and get forced out of your house by rising property taxes. If there becomes a glut of over priced houses that do not sell that can cause the city some problems. What happens at the end of a boom, hint it happened a few years ago to the housing market, it is called bust.

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Xenophobe (edit answer)
I agree as a fellow xenophobe..i suggest an electrified fence....with spikes...

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david frenkel (edit answer)
why are people making comments that add no value to this conversation? If you don't agree with comments that is fine but don't belittle other people's comments. I have been involved in grass roots politics for some time and these types of comments keep most people from making rational comments one way or another.

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Xenophobe (edit answer)
sarcasm is a perfectly acceptable way to make a point...hence making the point that there is a lot of xenophobia on this board...for example: when you said above "hint, it happened a few years ago to the housing market, it is called bust", I would respond and say the following "yes Professor that is an astoundingly complex and astute dissertation on housing market economics and all will do well to manage their investments and their lives based on this analysis, and that the statement was in the context of a rational comment that deserves awards for its rationality"...now that probably adds less value and is more belittling, although no less so than you providing such "hint"...in any event besides adding flying rabid attack vampire bates to the fence, I am not sure what more that can be done

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
David - I'm not letting you off this easy. I did a quick Google search on your name and noticed that you are posting comments on numerous sites – at least 10 per day in total (I especially appreciated your history of General Mills on MinnPost). If you dedicate just half your blogging time, you could make a real difference. It’s time to stop hiding behind your keyboard and go make a difference. No longer would builders and big business regard you as a harmless nuisance with a chip your shoulder. You could become the voice of reason and a promoter of real change. Soon builders would be afraid to build in Edina resulting in less development and lower price appreciation. Longtime residents wouldn’t have to be worried about getting offered too much for their home and “forced” to move. With enough effort, you could make Edina the next Richfield. The time to act is now.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
@Roger, I guess you are doing a confusing job of being sarcastic. Your comments are confusing but if you are slamming Richfield not sure what that has to do with this conversation. It would be much easier to have a rational discussion if you stated your views on this topic and not slamming other people if that is what you are doing using your own sense of humor. I am proud that I have volunteered on neighborhood organizations, coaching youth sports, volunteering with Bolder Options and a volunteered as and instructor for the American Red Cross. What have you done for your community?

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Ray Finkle (edit answer)
I want to make a comment that David deems useful and rational, because he is (a) obvously extremely experienced in commenting and (b) a true hero of the community. Let me try this: perhaps the fence should not have vampire bats (because they are hard to control), but instead be surrounded by a moat with sharks with laser beams attached to their heads to keep the new families out.

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
Dave - There’s an old, well known story of a chicken farmer who found an eagle’s egg. He put it with his chickens and soon the egg hatched. The young eagle grew up with all the other chickens and whatever they did, the eagle did too. He thought he was a chicken, just like them. Since the chickens could only fly for a short distance, the eagle also learnt to fly a short distance. He thought that was what he was supposed to do. So that was all that he thought he could do. As a consequence, that was all he was able to do. One day the eagle saw a bird flying high above him. He was very impressed. “Who is that?” he asked the hens around him. “That’s the eagle, the king of the birds,” the hens told him. “He belongs to the sky. We belong to the earth, we are just chickens. So the eagle lived and died as a chicken, for that’s what he thought he was. I expect this story complies to your definition of rationale discussion material.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
Why are so many of these posts personal attacks on me instead of the discussion topic? Sure disagree with me but talk of moats, sharks, and whatever else is not a discussion of the issues facing our community. It doesn't bother me that you slam me it just turns off other people who might contribute to this blog.

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Lois Einhorn (edit answer)
Anyone see last night's episode of The Walking Dead? It is a cautionary tale of what can happen in Edina if we are not careful.

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
@David - please settle down. Only 10 people read this blog and half are here to make fun of you. This dialogue we are having has had the more impact than all of your blogs combined.

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David - I don't believe that you have insufficient time to proactively protect the streets of Edina from construction vehicles. You obviously have plenty of time on your hands if you are worried about a HVAC vehicle parked inappropriately.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
@Ray, I have scuba dived and snorkeled close to sharks in the Gulf and the Caribbean and found that experience a little more interesting than reading some of the off topic comments in this blog. Not sure how complaining about violations of street parking by construction contractors has anything to do with my new neighbors. As I have said before there are city codes that apply to everybody including construction contractors. Public roads are not part of a construction site.

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Ray Finkle (edit answer)
yes, but did the sharks you snorkled with have laser beams attached to their heads...I DOUBT IT SIR

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Lois Einhorn (edit answer)
Ray, no one appreciates your mocking of this very important issue. We need to keep our focus on the zombies before its too late.

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Ray Finkle (edit answer)
Yes some of this takes a satirical tone, but this site and others discussing similar topics are filled with aggressive rhetorical attacks on new families coming in, and focusing on very specific personal issues...while everyone is entitiled to post what they want, I would argue that that in fact discourages appropriate dialogue...the moat with the sharks etc is obviously a joke, but is there to make a point...lets step back and discuss the issues in a more macro context but until then this is the best way I feel I can make a point...anyway, I am not going to post anymore, because as you may know, Finkle is, in fact, Einhorn

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david frenkel (edit answer)
@Roger, Why are you spending so much time on something you clearly do not are about? I don't mind disagreements but as you put it you are just poking fun it me. Every community has real issues and making personal attacks is a waste of everybodies time. Is it easier to poke fun at somebody that to talk about the issues or have I become the issue?

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
Yes, David, you are definitely the issue. You are making highly opinionated, emotionally charged gripes about petty issues. It appears you would like to create hype and concern within our community in order to deter future development in Edina, which would have negative effects for both incumbent and incoming residents. Many people move to Edina exactly because our city attracts redevelopment, which boosts our economy, creates taxes for our schools and creates stability in property values. You are calling for maximum enforcement of city ordinances on the most mundane issues, which makes such development difficult and costly for others. Unlike you, not everyone is perfect, but I would like you to cite one instance where construction was completed in violation of the law, hurt somebody or caused any damage whatsoever and was not resolved by the city. I feel horrible for your new neighbors and hope they never see all that you have written about their construction efforts. I’m guessing they are decent people and would have addressed your concerns had you had the courtesy to contact them through their builder or the country registry. Instead you chose to hide behind your keyboard and blast all these accusations and petty gripes over the web. Sad. I may have gotten carried away with my sarcasm, but my original post was to prove a point: that you would choose to sit behind your computer and whine rather than actually doing something about it, which just proves that you are only here to create unwarranted hype.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
@Roger, Nobody wants to live in a community that is not safe. Almost all of my contact with Edina Inspections and Police have been regarding safety related issues. I have called about my driveway blocked twice by construction vehicles, probably a dozen times for construction vehicles parked next to a stop sign, heavy off road equipment dropped into the street, gravel and rock dumped into the street, construction vehicles blocking streets, large dump trucks coming to the construction site before 7 a.m., illegally dumping pales of liquids into back yard, piles of construction/fence/landscaping debris piled in the yard against city code, utility damage to street left unpaved for weeks, etc. It is good business to do things right and Edina needs to make sure business in Edina follows the law. What makes you think I am hiding? The Internet is about as public as it gets. I have a family living next to this site and what I am trying to do is make my community as safe as I can for my children. If you think developers have more rights than my children that is your right but I will continue to do what I can to see laws are enforced.

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While sympathetic to the safety of children, I fail to see how heavy off road equipment in street, gravel/rock in street, piles of construction material in the yard create a hardous environment for children. Children shouldn't play in the street or on piles of construction material. If you don't want development in the community, move to a rural area where you don't have to worry about others bothering you.

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david frenkel (edit answer)
Do some of you guys work for developers? There are few sidewalks in most of Edina and it is routine in warm weather for children to bike and play in the street. I am a little dismayed at these personal attacks and comments. What happened to being good neighbors I heard earlier? I look forward to your future comments.

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
David- I’m not employed in the construction trade, but technically, we all work for the developers. Those monthly mortgage and tax payments you make as well as your maintenance investments are sustaining a property that will one day be torn down and redeveloped by a wealthy builder who makes his money by cutting corners and putting young lives at risk. Just think, there are probably several builders fantasizing of tearing your home down and building a large structure with all kinds of hazardous construction materials. It’s only a matter time before one of them makes you an offer you cannot afford to turn down and then you too will be complicit in the Edina Re-Development Machine. You may think you have free will, but this is your fate.

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
David - thank you for proving my point. Please let me know when something serious happens.

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Jennifer (edit answer)
Maybe people can use their real names and keep the conversation civil?

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marcus (edit answer)
Can someone create a separate topic or idea so David can throw his personal tantrums and personal beefs on another page and we can start discussing real issues....he throws tantrums across the internet so lets spare this site?

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To keep this space welcoming to everyone and their ideas, please keep comments respectful, constructive and on-topic. Thanks!

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Roger Carlson (edit answer)
I couldn't agree more, thank you.

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